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    American here…

    If there is one thing I’d hoped the world learned from us in the last 9 years or so, don’t bend a fucking knee to conservatives regardless of where they are. Don’t excuse, try to explain away or “Sanewash” shit they do.

    Don’t publize them, call out that idiocy was said, show why it’s idiotic, and drop it. Don’t give them time to dominate the news cycle.

    God damnit it’s frustrating seeing others go through the shit you just tried to stop, it’s like watching the cars continue to slam into a pile up on a frozen foggy highway.

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        Can’t do that. That’s confrontation and that scares us. It’s why we’re here on Lemmy instead. We need to only stick to the choir.

        Come on guys sing with me e minor

        “Fascist Regressive Nazi Oligarchs”

        Teaching them a lesson one derogatory category at a time.

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      Calling alt-right authoritarian regressives/reactionaries “conservatives” bothers me. It’s like “Damn those democracies and republics, like North Korea”, and “Nazis were nationalists and socialists - it’s in the name”.

      Conservatism is being wary of change and sticking to what works. Like not fucking up the climate.

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        Conservative parties have been idologically opposed to the rights, freedoms, and prosperity of the regular person for centuries. Word meanings are contextual, and in the context of governing blocs, it’s never meant “wary of change and sticking to what works”. It has always meant “fuck you, I’ve got mine”.

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          When feudalism was the old way, and human rights and freedoms were new, they were literally conserving the old way. The name was technically true.

          Anyway, my point: Don’t let enemies commandeer language with their newspeak where nothing means anymore what it apparently means and used to mean. If we agree to call them conservatives now, some literal-minded centrists (or whatever they are) will be fooled into voting them. We should repeat “that name is a lie, their actions are alt-right authoritarian”. It’s a mistake to go along with the lie and write on a map “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” or “Gulf of America”.

          Do we have a technical term for “fuck you, I’ve got mine”? Some opposite of socialism? Selfish?

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          I disagree. It’s about the status quo. So to them it is about protecting regular people but in this sense the regular people are the status quo people. This is why they’re successful. They have higher social intelligence. The left even describes this system without realizing it. The left are more diverse sub groups. Minority groups within the pop culture. So political the right are mostly always trying to maintain the social order while the left looks to disrupt it.

          The right are blue jeans and bubble gum America. The left are multiple sub groups of minorities all trying to make their main status quo while the status quo people reject all these groups in order to maintain their status quo.

          This is why Republicans do try to conserve. They fight to maintain the blue jeans bubble gum way while the left fight to change it.

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            This is a child’s level of understanding lol. Which is about where the conservatives are at these days

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              Big errors in your thinking.

              First is thinking you’re going to win with an inflated sense of competency. Pretending like you’re above it all is going to mean failure.

              The reason for that is because of your second failure in thinking that “they’re all conservatives”. They’re not. Just like I’m not liberal even though I’ll vote that way. So what are they?

              They’re no less smarter or any more dumb then you or me. They have different values. Majority of them are not just conservative or Republican or even right wing. They’re just people mildly paying attention. So saying ‘you should know just google it’ missed the fact that this opinion will lose every ounce of power politically.

              Why your line of reasoning fails is it shows how you’re not willing to accept that all those people really do respond to certain messages over others. The left fails at creating content and winning social victories which are the foundational blocks to winning the bigger victories. Stop acting like you’re too big brained to understand what every single person has known for centuries. Messages should be easy to understand and digest to maximize its reach.

              Everybody keeps calling them stupid. They’re not. I would even bet on average they have a much greater understanding of current events than people on the left. This is because the right has more surface area and easier to digest content, slogans, media, efforts than the left. We all see these simple slogans and think what a stupid message. Meanwhile it still rallies them to create city crippling convoys where those idiots are still on bridges today. We keep confusing their messages and politics as stupid without realizing it’s really just purposely simple whereas we’re all regulated to corners of the internet with barely anything to spread expect comments like “welp those idiots sure did it again, they usurped power while we passively watch”.

              If they’re winning victory after victory and usurping power then whose the real idiots

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                Sorry that happened to you or happy for you whichever applies but you couldn’t pay me to read your retarded shit

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                  Thanks for proving my god damn point lol

                  That’s actually really funny you showed how right I am on this.

                  Also status quo and sub groups within society isn’t any mind blowing revelation. It’s just people fail to apply it to politics for some reason even though it explains so much of it.

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        That’s not what Conservatism is. The ideology is and always has been about opposing equality and enlightenment values. The only difference between conservatives and the alt-right is that they’re better at optics and lying.

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        It would suck right now to be a conservative with so much of world politics now being between centre left and radical right, with no simple conservative position left.

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      Unfortunately, before J.T., we had Stephen Harper. He was a conservative, Tory/Tories in Canada and other commonwealth countries.

      Harper opened up some loopholes, and now a bunch of our news sources are owned by American VCs with close ties to the GOP…yaaaaay!

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      I worked for a different subsidiary of Bell for a while. I can attest that they don’t give a shit about real people.

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      *mega media organizations in Canada … who support, fund, finance and back the conservative party … and most likely fascism if and when it would take power in this country.

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          If you control the media, you control the minds of the people … the first rule of fascists and authoritarians

          “Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” ― Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda

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    Thanks for this. I recognize Rachel Gilmore from a post last year, but I had forgotten about it. I think her style is a little to, uh, young(?) for me, but I hope that means she’ll grab the attention of the younger generations.

    Fuck CTV. If you listen to the audio from their call with Rachel to let her know she was cancelled, the producer straight up admits the trolls won. https://rachelgilmore.substack.com/archive?sort=new

    Worse than spineless. This is encouragement for trolls to keep threatening journalists they don’t like with rape and murder.

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      Yeah it really is unfortunate they pulled her segment. Rachel is a friend of mine and the level of abuse she receives from the trolls and far right is shocking. They will literally track her down in the street to harass her. I have so much respect for her bravery to continue to push the truth to the surface.

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      For what it’s worth, at least the producer owned up to it and didn’t try to pass the buck, even though she probably should have.

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    It’s like he’s running a “tell me you’re Trump without telling me you’re Trump” contest. Like, he isn’t saying it openly but each time his actions speak the quiet part out loud.

    I’d laugh if it wasn’t a serious matter. And if it wasn’t the pot calling the kettle black about the liberals and their side of the media.

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    One day after Skamski’s tweet, a CTV Your Morning producer contacted Gilmore and notified her that her next planned fact-checking segment was being bumped due to a scheduling conflict with a Canadian premier.

    A week later, on March 31, CTV Your Morning Executive Producer Jennifer MacLean contacted Gilmore and told her a decision had been made to “call down the segment” altogether.

    In other words CTV’s handlers weighed in on the situation.

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    Just another example of traditional media avoiding facts when it gets to offensive for the Conservatives.

    I’m sure they’ll platform some far right stuff to “balance” things out.

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      I feel like Constant Panic 24 is more like Fox “News”, but yeah daytime CTV is not far behind.

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      I feel like until Lisa LaFlamme left it was the best one. Obvious decline afterwards

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        Canadian journalism is full of nepotism, favours, and exploitation. It’s been getting worse since most of our news organizations became American-owned over the last decade or so.

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    perhaps the ‘news’ should be reported by uninterested parties? shit, objective journalism died with Ea-Nasir…

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    Clicking the link got me no closer to finding out what she’s supposed to have done to anger the idiots. I had to go to some random crazy-right substack to find out: “misleading reporting that tied an unrelated arson attempt to Freedom Convoy protests in 2022.”