Voters want change, but still remain unsatisfied with their options

    • zalack@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Yeah. Strong “one of those things is not like the others” energy to this headline, lol.

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      Why is that the option, though? The majority of people who complain about the choices probably know who they’ll vote for even if it’s not a great choice, but how are these 3 the absolute best our country has to offer? Who’s pulling the strings to force this choice down our throats?

      • SterlingVapor@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        The fourth pillar of American democracy, media.

        By buying out news media they control the narrative. Now they’re coming for the platforms to control the narrative of public discourse

        There’s protection for these things from government ownership, because these are how democracy works. If you control the flow of information (or worse, convince them of false facts), you can warp the consensus in a certain directions

        One side is advocating all sorts of crazy shit (much of which they don’t actually want) and spreading easily consumed nonsense to justify it, and the other side is pointing at them and going “this is who will be in charge if you don’t go with us”

        This whole thing is a performance - sure, they’re actually competing and have slightly different goals, but all this fighting over social issues is just a way for them to act freely on the issues that actually matter. They don’t actually care about abortion or trans people, they care about the money.

        They just use hot button issues so they can give us a choice between people who are going to lie to our faces and screw us over, and we’ll fight each other over them instead of attempting to actually change anything. The effects may matter for us, but no matter who we choose-they’ll win and we’ll lose.

        When someone gives you a false choice, the only right choice is to attack the contrivance that took away your choice - we need to take back our media and organize

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          1 year ago

          Who is “they” in phrases like “they control the narrative” and “they’re coming for the platforms”?

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        It’s the illusion of choice, like one may give a toddler: would you like to have bacon or sausage with your breakfast? It’s the same product, different flavor.

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          Maybe in the worst funded public school system breakfast ever conceived …

          Bacon is a cured pork- usually belly, and typically sliced.

          Sausage is a seasoned ground meat… er… product… that might be cured or smoked or not, might be stuffed into casings or not, might (usually, unless specified,) be pork. Or not.

          The two products are vastly different. And, in point of fact … Biden and the other two are also vastly different.

          You might have had a point if you had said “it’d be like asking if you want cheap sausage or dogs shit.” I’ll let you figure out which is what.

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            Typical liberal. I’m left of that but thank you for the pedantry. It’s still pork and that goes to the wealthy and corporations, is the point. I’ll let you figure out which group works for the commoners.

            • Julian@lemm.ee
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              I’m leftist too and would love for someone other than old centrist men to run the country but saying Biden and Trump are the same is just ignorant. One is a straight up racist, misogynist fascist who has done irreparable damage to the country, and the other is at least somewhat competent and has enacted policies like the COVID relief stipend and pausing student loan debt payments. Yes, he also is a shill for big companies and should be doing way more. But it does make a difference for millions of people. All you do by treating them as the same is discourage people from voting, and that voter apathy is what got us trump, and could get us desantes. Short of a political revolution, that still is our best way to enact actual change. Plus, those things aren’t mutually exclusive.

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                Good politician-bad politician ruse imo. It’s not the age so much as the recorded history. That Overton Window is so right, it’s wrong, now.

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                  So what’s the solution? Again, voting is the only real way to get any change done right now, and while it’s minimal, I’d rather have a politician that has a minimal good effect vs none at all. The right thrives on voter apathy, they want you to feel like both sides are the same so they can take power, strip away voter rights, and stay in power - exactly what’s happening in conservative states like Florida and Texas.

                  Trust me, I want there to be another option, some sort of large-scale protest or revolution. But in lieu of that, the least we can do is make sure the minimal amount of damage is done.