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“Mildly” is putting it mildly.
This gif is real.
The US didn’t even get the excuse of being forced to pay obscenely high war reparations to justify their fascism. Instead, it’s dissatisfaction with inflation which, in turn, is the predictable combination of the exponential depletion of scarce resources (real estate, water) and the consolidation of property into the hands of an ultra wealthy minority. If one must frame the emergence of fascism in a “war” context, then the cause is plutocrat beligerantes strategically fighting a social class war while most of everyone else think it’s a culture war.
I want this picture on a sticker so I can put it on every Tesla I see.
Ngl, I was sceptical since still images are not a good representation of what’s really going on when people are moving around, but then I checked out the video. Good lord, he even did it twice.
Lookit his face. Makes me wanna slap the text FUCKTARD on it
Musk went from being the Henry Ford of our times to the Henry Ford of our times.
Remember when everyone hated on regular Russian citizens for not forming a rebellious revolution against Putin and assassinating him in his sleep? For not shooting every Russian oligarch and everyone who rubber stamped the invasion of Ukraine? Remember when people called them cowards and “as good as nazis” for being complacent and not getting up and doing something about it?
Where are you keyboard warriors now that the USA needs you?
Just sayin’
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The same people did nothing as the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, and enabled Israel. They were never consistent.
Excuse me, I wrote a handful of strongly worded letters to Joe Biden
If we’re being specific I’d say those people cheered on Iraq and Afghanistan as well. Bipartisan war hawks.
but only in the case of Russia’s conflict with the NATO Kyiv regime, all these people came out on the side of outright evil. As if the entire “progressive world” opposed the bad Russian communists on the side of the great Third Reich, which the Russian communists unjustifiably attacked
Shouldn’t be just saying, morons need harsh realities shoved in their face.
Being the best armed country in the world, the US is even worse for not following through
With how .ml is fanboying Trump for saving TikTok right now, you lot would bitch if somebody assassinated the president anyway.
Shouldn’t .ml be completely AGAINST trump, not with?
I mean, Stalin was fine working with the Nazis at first, so is it really surprising that people who share his idealistic views would be willing to make peace? Dictators band together, and authoritarianism will naturally support authoritarianism.
Here we go again with the right-wing revisionist propaganda.
The USSR had proposed, prior to 1939 and throughout all of the 30s, mutual-defense agreements with Poland, France and England, which all of them rejected. The USSR offered to enter a war against nazism as a response to the Munich agreements and the annexation of Czechoslovakia by nazis and Poland, but France and England (and obviously Poland) didn’t want that. The Soviets went as far as to offer sending ONE MILLION soldiers to France, together with artillery, aviation and tanks, on exchange for a mutual-defense agreement with France and England. As was later discovered through released embassy wires, the French and English ambassadors were instructed not to make a peace agreement with the Soviets under any condition, but to pretend to be interested and to prolong the negotiations for as long as possible… presumably expecting Nazis to invade the Soviet Union, given that communists were their self-declared enemy and they held racial motivations to eliminate “the Slavic Untermenschen”. It was convenient, letting the Nazis deal with the communists (since England and France had failed to eliminate Bolshevism during their invasion of Russia in the Russian Civil War), two birds with one stone.
The Soviet Union, which had only begun industrializing in 1928 with its first 5-year plan, compared to the century-long history of industrialization of Germany, simply didn’t have the material means to single-handedly fight nazism in 1939. This is further proven by the fact that, after the invasion of the USSR by the Nazis, 27 million Soviet lives were lost in the struggle against fascism. They DESPERATELY needed every single year they could buy, and they DESPERATELY needed to avoid facing the Nazis in a one-on-one struggle. Without the lend-lease program, and without the western front, who’s to say if the Soviet Union would have simply succumbed to Nazi Germany, and the horrifying additional extent of genocide that Nazis would have been able to perpetrate.
In case you don’t believe me personally, I’ll leave you another comment below this one with quotes of western politicians and diplomats of the period, showing the revisionism that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact has been subjected to.
Here we go again with the tankie whitewashing of their favorite nazi collaborators.
Go on, answer to this comment where it’s wrong, and answer to the comment below it with the historical DIRECT SOURCES FROM WESTERN COUNTRIES QUOTED
I’m not interested in helping you justify siding with the Nazis. I reject that any alliance with Nazis is justified, no matter the circumstances. Russia should have chosen to die, because that is the only fate anyone who sides with Nazis deserves. And anyone who tries to justify them siding with Nazis likewise deserves the wall. I don’t make exceptions, and I will never consider any in the slightest, no matter how well collaborators try to paint it in a good light.
End of discussion.
“ It is clear that Stalin had two courses open to him. He could seek a general coalition against Hitler, or he could come to an understanding with Hitler at the expense of the Western democracies. Stalin’s policy was guided by a profound conviction of the ultimate hostility of Nazi Germany, as well as by the hope that if the capitalist Powers became locked in mortal conflict, the Soviet Union might remain aloof, gaining strength while they tore one another to pieces. Certainly the principle of self-preservation lay at the heart of Moscow’s calculations ” Winston Churchill, The Gathering Storm, Chapter 20, The Soviet Enigma pub 1948.
“ In those days the Soviet Government had grave reason to fear that they would be left one-on-one to face the Nazi fury. Stalin took measures which no free democracy could regard otherwise than with distaste. Yet I never doubted myself that his cardinal aim had been to hold the German armies off from Russia for as long as might be ” (Paraphrased from Churchill’s December 1944 remarks in the House of Commons.)
“ It would be unwise to assume Stalin approves of Hitler’s aggression. Probably the Soviet Government has merely sought a delaying tactic, not wanting to be the next victim. They will have a rude awakening, but they think, at least for now, they can keep the wolf from the door ” Franklin D. Roosevelt (President of the United States, 1933–1945), from Harold L. Ickes’s diary entries, early September 1939. Ickes’s diaries are published as The Secret Diary of Harold Ickes.
“ One must suppose that the Soviet Government, seeing no immediate prospect of real support from outside, decided to make its own arrangements for self‑defence, however unpalatable such an agreement might appear. We in this House cannot be astonished that a government acting solely on grounds of power politics should take that course ” Neville Chamberlain, House of Commons Statement, August 24, 1939 (one day after pact’s signing)
“ We could not doubt that the Soviet Government, disillusioned by the hesitant negotiations with Britain and France, feared a lone struggle against Hitler’s mighty war machine. It seemed they had concluded, in the interests of survival, that an accord with Germany would at least postpone their day of reckoning ” Cordell Hull (U.S. Secretary of State), The Memoirs of Cordell Hull (Published 1948)
“ *It must be said that the Soviet Government, having little confidence in swift military aid from the Western Powers, chose to protect its borders, however odious such a pact might seem. One perceives in their choice the determination to secure time—time they evidently believed we were not prepared to give them.” Édouard Daladier (French Prime Minister), Address to the French Chamber of Deputies, Late August 1939
“ It seemed to me that the Soviet leaders believed conflict with Nazi Germany was inescapable. But, lacking clear assurances of military partnership from England and France, they resolved that a ‘breathing spell’ was urgently needed. In that sense, the pact with Germany was a temporary expedient to keep the wolf from the door ” Joseph E. Davies (U.S. Ambassador to the USSR, 1937–1938), Mission to Moscow (1941)
“ British officials, for all their outrage, concede that Stalin, with no firm pledge of Allied assistance, and regarding Poland as a foregone victim, decided that if the Red Army must eventually face Hitler, it should not be without first gaining some strategic space—and time ” Joseph P. Kennedy (U.S. Ambassador to the UK, 1938–1940),Private Correspondence, September 1939
Hopefully, you won’t accuse such sources, i.e. western diplomats and politicians who actually experienced WW2, of being tankies
Here we go again with the right-wing revisionist propaganda.
The USSR had proposed, prior to 1939 and throughout all of the 30s, mutual-defense agreements with Poland, France and England, which all of them rejected. The USSR offered to enter a war against nazism as a response to the Munich agreements and the annexation of Czechoslovakia by nazis and Poland, but France and England (and obviously Poland) didn’t want that. The Soviets went as far as to offer sending ONE MILLION soldiers to France, together with artillery, aviation and tanks, on exchange for a mutual-defense agreement with France and England. As was later discovered through released embassy wires, the French and English ambassadors were instructed not to make a peace agreement with the Soviets under any condition, but to pretend to be interested and to prolong the negotiations for as long as possible… presumably expecting Nazis to invade the Soviet Union, given that communists were their self-declared enemy and they held racial motivations to eliminate “the Slavic Untermenschen”. It was convenient, letting the Nazis deal with the communists (since England and France had failed to eliminate Bolshevism during their invasion of Russia in the Russian Civil War), two birds with one stone.
The Soviet Union, which had only begun industrializing in 1928 with its first 5-year plan, compared to the century-long history of industrialization of Germany, simply didn’t have the material means to single-handedly fight nazism in 1939. This is further proven by the fact that, after the invasion of the USSR by the Nazis, 27 million Soviet lives were lost in the struggle against fascism. They DESPERATELY needed every single year they could buy, and they DESPERATELY needed to avoid facing the Nazis in a one-on-one struggle. Without the lend-lease program, and without the western front, who’s to say if the Soviet Union would have simply succumbed to Nazi Germany, and the horrifying additional extent of genocide that Nazis would have been able to perpetrate.
In case you don’t believe me personally, I’ll leave you another comment below this one with quotes of western politicians and diplomats of the period, showing the revisionism that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact has been subjected to.
“ It is clear that Stalin had two courses open to him. He could seek a general coalition against Hitler, or he could come to an understanding with Hitler at the expense of the Western democracies. Stalin’s policy was guided by a profound conviction of the ultimate hostility of Nazi Germany, as well as by the hope that if the capitalist Powers became locked in mortal conflict, the Soviet Union might remain aloof, gaining strength while they tore one another to pieces. Certainly the principle of self-preservation lay at the heart of Moscow’s calculations ” Winston Churchill, The Gathering Storm, Chapter 20, The Soviet Enigma pub 1948.
“ In those days the Soviet Government had grave reason to fear that they would be left one-on-one to face the Nazi fury. Stalin took measures which no free democracy could regard otherwise than with distaste. Yet I never doubted myself that his cardinal aim had been to hold the German armies off from Russia for as long as might be ” (Paraphrased from Churchill’s December 1944 remarks in the House of Commons.)
“ It would be unwise to assume Stalin approves of Hitler’s aggression. Probably the Soviet Government has merely sought a delaying tactic, not wanting to be the next victim. They will have a rude awakening, but they think, at least for now, they can keep the wolf from the door ” Franklin D. Roosevelt (President of the United States, 1933–1945), from Harold L. Ickes’s diary entries, early September 1939. Ickes’s diaries are published as The Secret Diary of Harold Ickes.
“ One must suppose that the Soviet Government, seeing no immediate prospect of real support from outside, decided to make its own arrangements for self‑defence, however unpalatable such an agreement might appear. We in this House cannot be astonished that a government acting solely on grounds of power politics should take that course ” Neville Chamberlain, House of Commons Statement, August 24, 1939 (one day after pact’s signing)
“ We could not doubt that the Soviet Government, disillusioned by the hesitant negotiations with Britain and France, feared a lone struggle against Hitler’s mighty war machine. It seemed they had concluded, in the interests of survival, that an accord with Germany would at least postpone their day of reckoning ” Cordell Hull (U.S. Secretary of State), The Memoirs of Cordell Hull (Published 1948)
“ *It must be said that the Soviet Government, having little confidence in swift military aid from the Western Powers, chose to protect its borders, however odious such a pact might seem. One perceives in their choice the determination to secure time—time they evidently believed we were not prepared to give them.” Édouard Daladier (French Prime Minister), Address to the French Chamber of Deputies, Late August 1939
“ It seemed to me that the Soviet leaders believed conflict with Nazi Germany was inescapable. But, lacking clear assurances of military partnership from England and France, they resolved that a ‘breathing spell’ was urgently needed. In that sense, the pact with Germany was a temporary expedient to keep the wolf from the door ” Joseph E. Davies (U.S. Ambassador to the USSR, 1937–1938), Mission to Moscow (1941)
“ British officials, for all their outrage, concede that Stalin, with no firm pledge of Allied assistance, and regarding Poland as a foregone victim, decided that if the Red Army must eventually face Hitler, it should not be without first gaining some strategic space—and time ” Joseph P. Kennedy (U.S. Ambassador to the UK, 1938–1940),Private Correspondence, September 1939
Hopefully, you won’t accuse such sources, i.e. western diplomats and politicians who actually experienced WW2, of being tankies
Fair point
I replied to the comment above with an answer on the revisionism of Molotov-Ribbentrop pact
.ml
is fascists, so why would they mind Trump? He’s their glorious leader?They’re left wing facists who glaze the soviet union and hate America
hate America
We are literally seeing the Nazi salute in the inauguration of the US president, what’s not to hate??
Trump at least pretends to love America. .ml absolutely despises anyone who loves America
Again. Nazi salute america?
Yeah they’re full of ‘critical support’ for anything that obstructs US foreign policy. Regardless of how many workers may die in the process. Amazing that they can call themselves communists and ignore revolutionary defeatism.
I yet have to see a post fanboying trump at all.
They literally banned someone for attacking Trump yesterday. You aren’t paying attention.
for attacking Trump
attacking him for what, I wonder
If somebody says “Trump is shitty”, and tankies throw a fit about that and ban them, I don’t need any more nuance than that. It isn’t the first time commies have worked hand-in-hand with nazis, and it won’t be the last.
IDK, I know a lot of neo-nazis who’d say ‘fuck trump’ in response to him being willing to work with Israel
Any time I see a lib complaining about being banned on .ml it’s almost always because they earned it by saying something xenophobic or reactionary
The person banned was a communist. He was banned for “defending” Biden by saying he was not worse than Trump.
But hey, I don’t really care what insane nonsense tankies spew on their own instances, if they wanna hug a nazi then that’s on them.
Not an ml, but I think it’s too simplistic to see things this black and white.
These select individuals just want to shoe horn in their ridiculous feud with .ml into every single comment they make.
We’re being real loose with the term ‘fanboy’ now, huh
no looser than tankies are with morals, huh
pot, kettle
Trump brought tiktok back but with more censorship. “Free Palestine” is now banned on TikTok. Last I checked .ml was still playing with RedNote.
Living in a country that did something against putins predacessor and are now enjoying democracy as a result. This could be you.
And it’s day fucking 1! We still have (at least) four more YEARS of this!
I’m reminded of Trump’s first term, when we all thought it couldn’t possibly get any worse, and yet it always did keep getting worse.
Next he’ll be wearing a swastika on his arm and claiming “oh this is just a whirling log, a symbol of prosperity and peace”. And also “oh this is just a very black uniform that Hugo Boss made for me”
In the meantime while everyone is looking at Elon Donald is signing executive orders to
- Grant top secret security clearances to White House staff without going through traditional vetting procedures.
- Open the Alaska wilderness to more oil and gas drilling.
- Eliminate environmental justice programs across the government, which are aimed at protecting poor communities from excess pollution.
- Move to end birthright citizenship, which is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, for the children of undocumented immigrants.
- Declare migrant crossings along the U.S.-Mexico border to be a national emergency
- Remove protections for transgender people in federal prisons.
- Ensure that states carrying out the death penalty have a “sufficient supply” of lethal injection drugs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/20/us/politics/trump-executive-orders-list.html
Ensure that states carrying out the death penalty have a “sufficient supply” of lethal injection drugs.
Some context: The EU has been sanctioning the US over this for decades now, first we stopped selling drugs they use to murder people to prisons, then we completely stopped exports, it has gotten so far as to stop exports of precursor chemicals. And it’s not like our pharma companies would mind they’re actively on the ball regarding this, they don’t want to be associated with it either.
If you want to be barbarians at least have the decency to not paralyse people while they die in abject agony but use a guillotine. Heck, firing squad or hanging are more humane than that injection stuff: Literally torturing people to death while making sure they can’t flail and scream.
I’m not saying there will be mass deportation, indefinite detainment, and possibly executions of unwanted people, but they sure are lining up for it. For example ramping up execution of sexual predators, while at the same time labelling LGBT and drag as being predators, just for existing near children…
Like if Elon is a nazi, then we may very well see a DOGE squad hunt down “un-American” people in the darkest timeline.
Just want to point out, executive orders are the easy part. All you need is control of the executive branch for that, and even then federal judges can block any orders they deem illegal (which will ultimately filter it’s way up to the Supreme Court) the real hard part is repealing acts of congress and even harder will be issuing new laws. That requires both the House and Senate to align their priorities and goals and agree on the specific legislation. This was an insurmountable challenge for the Republican party back in 2016-18 to the point where they were largely unable to pass any meaningful legislation
Remember the whole “repeal and replace Obamacare” thing?
Reminder that ~
270170 million Americans allowed this to happen.