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      Wait, are we allowed to call them Nazis yet? Or is it still unnecessary vitriol?

        • Could people please just read a little bit of history before commenting on it? Please?

          Yes, the full formal name of the Nazi party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (National Socialist German Workers’ Party). Yes that name has “socialist” in it.

          But you know what? North Korea is the 조선민주주의인민공화국 (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea). Are we to take it as read, then, that you think North Korea is democratic? (Or that it gives a shit about the People?) No?

          Extrapolate that to the Nazis.

          It’s well known in history circles that extend one micro-step away from simplistic high school history that the word “socialist” was put into the Nazi Party’s name because they were trying, in their early days, to siphon members from other socialist groups. This is called “branding”. You label yourself in ways that makes you sound like what people want, get them on your side, then turn into what you want. Do you want another example for a political party instead of a nation? Canada’s old “Progressive Conservative Party of Canada” would be a case in point. I mean the name is a literal contradiction in terms, but I guess because it says “progressive” they must have been a progressive party, right? RIGHT!?

          Here are a few more names that are flat-out lies:

          • Liberal Democratic Party of Russia (neither liberal, nor democratic)
          • Democratic Republic of the Congo (just like the DPRK, this place isn’t even remotely democratic)
          • The United States Taxpayers Party (now Constitution Party, was never about Taxpayers and always about what would now be alt-right policies)
          • The Sustainable Australia Party (named like it’s about the environment, is really anti-immigration)
          • The American Independent Party (named to fool people into thinking they’re registering as independents, but is really a far right party)
          • The Social Democratic Party (sounds left-wing, but is really centrists who broke off from the UK’s Labour Party)

          That list could go on for a very long time, but I hope by now you can understand how anybody who actually opened a history book would laugh at “the socialist part”.

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        It used to be okay to kill Nazi’s on sight, as they are not only a threat to National Security, but a threat to humane values itself. Our grandfathers watched people die in droves for the chance to kill a Nazi. Now? You’ll probably be shot or arrested by police for killing a Nazi.

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          Now? You’ll probably be shot or arrested by police for killing a Nazi.

          Yes of course. Nazis are going to protect their own.

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    Wow. I was willing to believe that the still pictures were just perfectly timed to make it look like something it wasn’t. But it totally is a Nazi salute.

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      Yeah, this was the first time I saw it in motion. How anyone could try to spin this as anything else is wild. We’re to the part in 1984 where we’re told to reject the evidence of our eyes and ears…

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    How did he make the Nazi salute look somehow even MORE uncool than the -9999999999999999999999 it was already at.

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        Probably multiple reasons, but if I had to guess, it was mostly about security for all of the billionaires in attendance.

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      Exactly this. People still don’t seem to grasp it, but they will soon. This is the end game. No need to pretend anymore, they got the thing they’ve been working towards for decades.

      My only hope is that the GOP splinters over this kind of shit and destroys itself. But I’m not holding my breath.

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    So he literally turns around and does it a 2nd time.

    How can anyone deny it now? There’s no way this is coincidence, like he’s just really awkward with gestures and was bad at throwing his hand in the air to the crowd. This can’t be explained away.

    Wtf bullshit argument or defense is he and his supporters going to spew out?

    They all say he’s such a genius, but he’s unaware of how close this gesture is to a nazi salute? There’s no way this can be defended. It’s just too obvious.

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    Fuck Elon Musk. Knowing I’ll be able to piss on his grave and Trumps grave keeps me going. These fucking fascist need to be fought tooth and nail.

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        Oh it’s definitely not going to stop but that’s no reason to not fight now and in the future. Fuck Nazis. Fuck fascists.

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          Agreed but the problem is they’re winning. They have the power to destroy education, enact laws, control media/propaganda, appoint judges, influence law enforcement, military.

          Fight fucking how? I’m not saying give up by any means, but things are looking grim.

          If you’re a leftist, learn to shoot and buy a gun for self defense like all the conservatives? Honestly I don’t know if that’d even help.

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            Fight fucking how?

            Even if you can’t or aren’t willing to do violence, there is always nonviolent resistance and civil disobedience. I wonder if there was a prominent figure of the civil rights movement who told us about that.

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            When I say fight I’m talking about non-violent resistance and violent but it’s increasingly looking like it’s going to be the latter. Fascists only understand one thing. Force.

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        There’s no guarantee that the next one will be less stupid.

        That doesn’t mean that the next fascist will have less support. Or do less damage.

        Stupid is hard to fight.

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      I’m going to take extra good care of my health in the hopes that if I outlive him this will be on my bucket list.

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      Knowing I’ll be able to piss on his grave and Trumps grave keeps me going.

      A lot of people in fascist countries don’t get to live long enough to piss on the fascist leader’s grave.

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    Not gonna lie, my eyes bugged out when I saw that. I knew masks were falling off, but this was too on the nose even for my expectations

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      Same. Already? Couldn’t wait a single day?

      And there are people desperately trying to say he wasn’t doing a nazi salute. I refuse to let someone tell me I’m not seeing what’s right in front of my eyes.

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      If he has any sense that overcomes his pride, he should be grateful that someone else is taking some flak for him.

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        Well, we know he doesn’t have any sense, but if he did, it would most certainly be overcome by his need to be the center of attention.

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    Guys you are just too left. Under any other circumstance a nazi salute and flirting with AfD is considered leftist by a comfortable margin.

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    Well, get ready for a whole lot of gaslighting. He’s going to say that’s not what he was doing and his lil army of trolls are going to toe the line.