Honestly this is absurd. These death machines shouldn’t be legal in europe. That thing doesn’t even fit in the parking space, even though the parking lot has the biggest spaces in the whole city. The Golf Polo is so small in comparison, it could even hide in front of the engine hood of the truck.
EDIT: It’s a Polo and not a Golf, I don’t know my cars, sorry for that!
But you forgot that the truck can be used to haul 4 pieces of lumber twice a year!
And only costs 1000x more than it would to rent a trailer for a day twice a year.
Exactly!
The Lowes near me you can rent a whole truck for like $20 + gas
Or, carry the same 4 pieces of lumber all year long and cause me anxiety everytime I’m driving behind.
huh?
I think he’s referring to people who transport goods in the back of a truck unsecured.
You’re very generous lol
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headlights shouldn’t be allowed that high on road vehicles, blinding menace on wheels.
Especially when they aren’t the normal yellowish ones and they have the strong, eye piercing white-blue ones. Fucking hate xenon headlights.
Theoretically they could angle them down but I’m guessing they don’t.
Aren’t they obligated to aim headlight at certain angle? I know they check it at periodical technical check of civil vehicles.
Both of them are used to transport mostly a single person at a time. Even the small one is too big.
Fuck cars, not just big trucks. They all tuck, they all are responsible for the harm done.
I’m seeing these in London now. Why are we importing the absolute worst of US transportation fucks ups?
It makes no sense, our roads weren’t even designed for it.
That’s not going to stop these psychopaths from buying these bro-dozers. Wait until you have the pleasure of seeing one of these dumb fucks kill a pedestrian and get away with it.
And then watch most governments react by making infrastructure more hostile to pedestrians.
America FUCK YEAH! Comin’ again to save the motherfuckin’ day, yeah America (FUCK YEAH!) Freedom is the only way, yeah…
capitalism is a worldwide system, europeans are no more safe from it than americans or afticans, we need to overthrow it everywhere
fucking leftist
How else are you going to let people know you lost the genetic lottery?
Can you store up to 10 corpses on that Polo?
Seriously this is actually a good point. While most trucks are overkill for daily driving if you do a lot of hunting, fishing etc you have to deal with transporting dead/gross things home surprisingly often. It’s nice to have a totally separate compartment that you can simply hose out. Again not for everyone but that’s a legit use case a family friend has for their truck.
We all know.
“They have there usage”.
Yes, we know. Does a ranger/hunter use this parking lot on their way from home to the woods? Nope.
I’m coming off a bit angry, I don’t mean it. But every post about ridiculously huge, gargantuan trucks has a comment about the edge case usage.
But that’s not our lived reality. In our lived reality 99% of these trucks don’t have any additional usage of that sort. Their owners just want to have them.
I know you know, and I get the point of this community is to limit car use in favor of public transportation, bikes etc. I support that and that’s why I’m here.
Should trucks be waaay less common on our roads? Yes and I think that times will change and smaller more practical trucks (think 90’s toyota hilux or todays ford maverick) will be much more common. But there are people out there that have no idea that those edge cases exist and that’s worth mentioning because they do have a place, just not a prominent one, especially in cities.
Probably get a similar amount of room in a station wagon.
True, unfortunately they aren’t very common. The only ones that come to mind are Subarus and the occasional BMW
We’ve got a Volvo V60, it’s a little big for my tastes, but when you’re carrying a family, an estate car comes in very handy.
If stacked on one another, a van would always hold more luggage than that truck would with even better mobility on major roads. There’s no justification for the existence of that monstrosity.
Yeah definitely, so many animal carcasses are transported in EU on daily bases by everyday citizen for sure…
Yeah definitely, so many american made Dodge 1500s driven by everyday citizens in the EU…
As annoying as these big fat cars on the road (I am from third-world country, and most roads here aren’t designed for these trucks), I can totally get its purpose — to store mid-to-heavy loads, and a mini-bedroom in case you’re stuck.
I’m a big fan of the “mid size trucks” in the old school Toyota Hilux sense. Way smaller and way more practical for more people
You would be surprised 😂 To be precise, I’m not talking about corpses but I saw smaller car transporting 8-10 living Roma people with no issue.
It seems like a lot of people here don’t understand that circumstances might be different in different places. This post itself assumes the only reason is to transport people, but the truck can do more than that.
If I lived in a rural place and needed something that could tow, transport, and go over tougher terrain, I could see the usefulness of having a truck around. Not everything is in a comfy city where everything is within a couple miles.
Now where I currently live, I’d never dream of getting a truck like that. So much hassle and the roads are too small. But I could see it being useful for someone else.
The truck still doesn’t need to be that big. Trucks have gotten absolutely massive with no appreciable difference in bed size. Yes yes, of course, bigger truck = more towing and load capacity, but honestly there’s got to be a reasonable limit where something becomes a commercial vehicle, and the limit needs to be much lower than the current standard.
Reminds me of the ever growing number of blades on a mach razer.
Yes yes, of course, bigger truck = more towing and load capacity
Bigger, longer trucks are also more stable for towing, which is particularly useful if you’re towing livestock. Animals moving in a stock trailer are much less stable than a trailer full of equally heavy equipment.
But that’s honestly pretty niche. The average pickup driver doesn’t own horses.
Excuse me sir. This is a /c/fuckcars. We are just here to fuckcars because for reasons. We are not here for nuance. If people need big cars because their lives depended on it the they should change their lives /s
We all understand there are actual uses for a large truck. The issue is A) these trucks keep increasing in size well beyond what is practically needed, and B) more and more people who don’t have a practical use for these vehicles are commuting to work in them. The average person driving a large truck today does not live on a farm. They live in the suburbs and use it to commute to their office job and occasionally to grab a can of paint from home Depot.
These tanks aren’t safe around pedestrians or smaller cars, they take up way too much space and either don’t fit in most parking spots or necessitate the building bigger and bigger parking lots, they’re fuel inefficient, their headlights are obnoxiously high and blind everyone else at night, etc.
They’re obnoxious, dangerous, harmful to the environment, and simply unnecessary for the vast majority of people, so fuck 'em.
You can’t possibly know each person’s reasoning on why they may need or not need a particular thing. Saying someone cannot get it at all will end up hurting the little guy. The person why can’t go through all the hoops to get some random exception for their specific use case.
You talk about it being dangerous, doesn’t every driver go through roughly the same certification process for that state? If you’re problem is the quality of their driving, you should be pushing for higher standards for getting a license
You say they are wasteful on gas. Wouldn’t that mean the owner would need to pay extra money out of pocket to maintain it’s use? They are bearing the cost extra cost of ownership, so why not let them use it? For example, you are probably paying for internet. Should I be allowed to stop you from using the internet you paid for because I don’t agree with your reasoning? No, and that’s completely ridiculous.
You can’t possibly know each person’s reasoning on why they may need or not need a particular thing. Saying someone cannot get it at all will end up hurting the little guy. The person why can’t go through all the hoops to get some random exception for their specific use case.
I absolutely can. Look at trucks from 50 years ago and compare them to the monstrosities of today
The trucks being sold today are ridiculously oversized and I can say pretty confidently that no one actually needs a vehicle that size for 99.999% of use cases. Car manufacturers are the only ones that benefit from this arms race to sell bigger and tankier vehicles to people for commuting.
You talk about it being dangerous, doesn’t every driver go through roughly the same certification process for that state? If you’re problem is the quality of their driving, you should be pushing for higher standards for getting a license
They’re dangerous because of their size, not because of who drives them. A collision between a giant truck and a small passenger car has a high likelihood of severely injuring or killing the occupants of the small passenger car, A) because of the weight of the larger truck, and B) because the collision safety features of a small car are only engineered to protect well in a collision with another similarly sized vehicle.
Also, the sight-lines for these behemoths is pathetic. The Abrams M1 Battle tank has better forward visibility than a modern F250.
You say they are wasteful on gas. Wouldn’t that mean the owner would need to pay extra money out of pocket to maintain it’s use? They are bearing the cost extra cost of ownership, so why not let them use it? For example, you are probably paying for internet. Should I be allowed to stop you from using the internet you paid for because I don’t agree with your reasoning? No, and that’s completely ridiculous.
We’re all paying for the environmental impacts of hydrocarbon usage. Low-efficiency vehicles should not be used for commuting.
Looked at the image you provided. I can see your point about some of the sightlines. For regular commuting in most circumstances, I’ll give you it. But that’s the thing, you seem to be assuming a very specific circumstance and applying it to everything. You are trying to take a role of a general passenger vehicle for daily commute and applying it to a vehicle meant for work.
So yes, for regular commuting I’d say you are 100% right. But there are uses outside of such a limited scope.
So everyone agrees then?
The only difference between you two is that you have different beliefs about the owners of these vehicles.
I also believe that these are mostly not used for work, but rather as ego-boosting commuter vehicles.
I was pushing back against the idea that the vehicles shouldn’t exist and nobody should have them. I definitely seen some people who probably don’t need it.
From my personal anecdotal experience, I know someone who lives out of a trailer and they are mobile all the time. It doesn’t make sense to have a truck + sedan because they move around all the time. So instead they have one of those big trucks to lug a home trailer that they can drop off and then go do anything else they need in the area. Very specific niche case, probably would be ridiculed here if seen driving on the streets.
People who need trucks hate these things
Well, not the same amount of people. The truck can only carry the same number of people, but only guys with small dicks.
Dick size is not the issue, let’s not make a genetically determined physical trait something to shame people over, when people who drive such massive vehicles have actual things we can criticise them for!
I know it’s a joke, but idk not an inventive or funny one imo.
True, but what else can you do, especially on a forum (where the overcompensating/insecure truck driver will never come)?
And sorry that my joke was stale. After posting I noticed I was hardly the first or last to make the same remark.
But what new can be said about these trucks?
It’s all good! I didn’t want to sound preachy or anything, and I did notice you weren’t the only one making the call (but didn’t want to span my thoughts and you were first appearing in my scrolling).
I think another comment made that call about it being a reflection of a fragile sense of masculinity which lands better imo. Like, that’s plausibly true, and doesn’t perpetuate a cultural narrative that penis length is a corollary of masculine worthiness.
OP most-likely meant “Napoleon complex”. They overcompensate for their insecurity.
#cocktailweinergang
And realistically, only one of them.
the red one can haul so much more corpse at the back though. yours can’t.
Bro what? They had to pull up on the curb to fit in a space. That’s ridiculous .
Europe, my dude. An unnecessary choice of vehicle for Europe. At least, for most of Europe. North American spots are much larger.
Totally unnecessary indeed
I owned an f150 for 11 years. It’s honestly been my favorite vehicle. However, in the time I owned it, I used it to tow my motorcycles and race gear, I renovated almost every room in my house, and I had a seven kilometer drive to work. It was an extremely useful vehicle. Anyone that needs a truck will immediately argue with you that they aren’t necessary… For some people. My kids got a little older, and I need to drive them and their friends around, I sold the bikes, and I sold the truck for 50% of what I paid for it. I bought a 6 seater explorer. You may not like trucks, but they have their uses. If they sold UTEs in the USA/Canada I would have bought one in a second. I used to carry a tow strap too to pull civics out of the ditch during snow storms.
You could have done all of that in a small truck like the old ford ranger.
No one thinks that trucks aren’t useful. The problem is the absolutely preposterous size of these trucks.
You are 100% correct I absolutely could have. However the ranger was discontinued and the next closest vehicle was a Tacoma, which sold for 42,000. My f150 was 26,000
That’s fine, I’m not calling you out specifically. My point is that the argument for the necessity of trucks isn’t an argument for the necessity of these giant behemoths. Someone might genuinely need a truck, but they probably don’t need a truck that has a hood height nearly 6 feet and barely fits in a standard size parking spot.
I think the problem is that a lot of the time (at least I’m America, that’s where I live), is that people don’t actually utilize their pickup trucks and they just end up being shiny pavement princesses.
Americans don’t know about this little secret.
I am sorry to tell you that that person is not a racer. Not even close. They guy does not have a hibachi and food for 3 people in his car. He also doesn’t have a dedicated rain bike on top of his primary and secondary (A and B) bike. We towed a 16 foot enclosed trailer with the bed full. But nice try.
I haven’t owned a vehicle in five years and I would 100% buy a UTE in less than a heartbeat. That auto manufacturers gave up on them domestically is a huge bummer. Even the new Hyundai Santa Cruz is a bit too big as a vehicle, however the bed is oddly tiny. I want the bed size of Ford Ranger with the cab and ground clearance of a Toyota Corolla.
I also started to see more of these in urban areas of europe. Not a huge amount but still recognizable. I dont get why one would buy something like this. You wont even be able to find a proper parking spot for these.
100% they are buying these to “protest” the “green agenda” or some bullshit like that.
That’s not very strong in EU, it’s mostly for ego, people buy cars that they think look like the image they want to display.
That’s not very strong in EU
??? Thats just wrong lol
In which EU country is there a notable percentage of people buying big cars to protest the green agenda? Never heard of it in France. I do know a lot of people who buy cars for the image and the social status however.
Here in Sweden it’s certainly not an insignificant opinion amongst car enthusiasts.
They might fit the same amount of people, but not the same amount of overblown ego.
6 vs. 5. But I get your point.
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It is too big, but the form factor is still important. We upgraded from a Jeep to a Yukon Denali because we are very poor and live in Fuck All, Nowhere and need to haul groceries and furniture from the city.
With that said, none of us three friends and housemates like testosterone, and we are careful about how we drive and where we park. We do our best! <3
No hating on your vehicle choice, but very poor and Denali trim anything doesn’t make sense lol
It was the only used vehicle we could afford that wasn’t breaking down and could haul furniture.
I just don’t understand why we can’t have mid engine trucks anymore.
Imagine all that space with a smaller footprint!
Mid engine trucks? What in the librul hell are those? REAL MEN drive trucks with engine bays as long as a sedan, you dirty socialist commie!
/s
I drive a sierra and I try to park as far away from the “Good spaces” as possible.
A) because I know I can’t park my fuckheug
And
B) I’m young and healthy. I can walk.
Before I get berated, I use my ebike for most trips that don’t involve work, play, or long distances. My average fuel usage is roughly the same as when I had my subaru outback that got 7MPG better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fuck cars? But also, we need cars. Like, you can’t live in most of the US without them. Nobody should be downvoting a person for using a car. You’d be downvoting a person who uses a crappy system out of necessity. I would hope people here understand that.
Hard agree.
Honestly I wish I still had my subie, I loved it, but it couldn’t do what I needed it to do.
Honestly would have loved it if the maverick hybrid came in AWD/4WD
Honestly I wish that hybrids had played a bigger role in the cut off of gas engines for those of us who have nowhere to plug an EV in
Edit: One more “honestly” for good measure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You need a car but most people don’t need a f***ing truck to get their groceries or commune. US used to have “normal” sized cars few decades ago as well AFAIK.
It sounds like you know everyone’s lives and what they need then. I’ll just close up shop. /s
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